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congresswoman gabby giffords showed unbelievable courage on capitol hill today. now we'll see if the cowards in congress have the character to do something about guns in this country. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> too many children are dying. we must do something. >> gabby giffords makes a surprise emotional plea, and the nra responds with nonsense. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you missed that point completely. >> tonight senator sheldon whitehouse on today's dramatic day of testimony. plus, dan gross of the brady campaign on the heroes fighting for gun safety and the villains who want to keep it the way it is. >>> the republican obsession with european austerity. kneecap the nation's economy. david cay johnston on today's troubling gdp report. >>> bobby jindal breaks his own rule. >> we've got to stop being the stupid party. >> find out how the poor in his state are about to start suffering on friday. >>> and brand-new polling proves again that we're living in a center-left country. tonight i'll tell you why it's up to one pers
congresswoman gabby giffords showed unbelievable courage on capitol hill today. now we'll see if the cowards in congress have the character to do something about guns in this country. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> too many children are dying. we must do something. >> gabby giffords makes a surprise emotional plea, and the nra responds with nonsense. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you missed that point completely. >>...
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gabby giffords testifying this morning, an emotional plea. you've become part of the mayors against illegal guns and congressman, i want to ask you, what's your reaction to having heard the testimony of gabby giffords today and the impact that she can make in having common sense conversation about the debate? >> well, i mean, i hope the testimony of congresswoman giffords is compelling to members of the senate. look, we need to enact common sense gun safety legislation. we need to fix the broken background check system to be sure that criminals and people seriously mentally ill don't have access to guns. we need to close loopholes at gun shows and fire sales when a gun dealer has a licensed revoked. there's things we can do. there's legislation to fix those things. no one is suggesting people don't have a right to a firearm, but we need to make sure people with no right to a gun, convicted of a crime, serious mental illness, don't have access to firearms, and we need to protect our communities. there's good common sense answers to this. we sh
gabby giffords testifying this morning, an emotional plea. you've become part of the mayors against illegal guns and congressman, i want to ask you, what's your reaction to having heard the testimony of gabby giffords today and the impact that she can make in having common sense conversation about the debate? >> well, i mean, i hope the testimony of congresswoman giffords is compelling to members of the senate. look, we need to enact common sense gun safety legislation. we need to fix the...
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gabby giffords at the white house. probably a very significant experience for people there close to it and the president. how does that meeting fit into the larger white house strategy right now? >> well, i think that you are starting to see president obama's strategy trying to get stiffer gun laws enacted unfold part of that tactic includes meeting with those who have a stake in this issue like gabby giffords and mark kelly. of course they have a pact so they are collaborating to get out a message. i also think you're going to see president obama hit the road, get out of d.c., get out of the kwhoois and take his message to the people. of course he's trying to get stiffer gun laws enacted which include reenstating the ban on assault weapons, limiting high-capacity magazines. we saw joe biden in virginia last week doing the same thing. he had a round table discussion about that. but then there's sort of this second track. they will be working in conjunction with the retooled version of the campaign which is organizing f
gabby giffords at the white house. probably a very significant experience for people there close to it and the president. how does that meeting fit into the larger white house strategy right now? >> well, i think that you are starting to see president obama's strategy trying to get stiffer gun laws enacted unfold part of that tactic includes meeting with those who have a stake in this issue like gabby giffords and mark kelly. of course they have a pact so they are collaborating to get out...
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peg laramie says "gabby gifford is the face of courage. what a fighter." and susan writes "respect courage, conviction, go, gabby. now go congress." thank you for all your comments. if you want to jump into the conversation, what you thought about today's dramatic hearing, we want you to go to our facebook page right now and join the conversation. and don't forget to like us on the facebook page with "the ed show." still to come, the man who told the gop to stop being the stupid party makes a real dumb move on health care in his state. we'll show you how governor bobby jindal's planned cuts, planned budget cuts would affect louisiana's poorest residents. stay with us. >>> welcome back to "the ed show". here on this program, we have been focused on the latest republican effort to rig the 2016 election by changing how the electoral votes are counted in a handful of battleground states. battleground states. currently, the winner of the state-wide vote gets all of the electoral college votes. under the plan proposed by republicans, electoral votes would be awa
peg laramie says "gabby gifford is the face of courage. what a fighter." and susan writes "respect courage, conviction, go, gabby. now go congress." thank you for all your comments. if you want to jump into the conversation, what you thought about today's dramatic hearing, we want you to go to our facebook page right now and join the conversation. and don't forget to like us on the facebook page with "the ed show." still to come, the man who told the gop to stop...
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when gabby giffords' husband spoke after she did, he talked about he and gabby both being gun owners themselves, talked about both being people who are pro-gun ownership, but he said that reform is necessary within the bounds of the second amendment that you can be both pro-gun ownership and pro-gun safety reform. specifically, captain mark kelly said our number one priority as a country should be to fix the background check system for buying guns. when people talk about the broken background check system, they're talking about the fact that if you buy a gun at a gun show, or through a private sale, just person to person, you're not required to go through a background check. if you buy from a licensed gun dealer, the law says you do need a background check. but 40% of the guns sold this country aren't sold that way. so our background check system is not really much of a system at all. and don't take it from me. you can take it from the baltimore county chief of police. >> on behalf of my colleagues across the nation, i'm here today to tell you that we are long overdue in strengthenin
when gabby giffords' husband spoke after she did, he talked about he and gabby both being gun owners themselves, talked about both being people who are pro-gun ownership, but he said that reform is necessary within the bounds of the second amendment that you can be both pro-gun ownership and pro-gun safety reform. specifically, captain mark kelly said our number one priority as a country should be to fix the background check system for buying guns. when people talk about the broken background...
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it is a miracle that gabby giffords survived that hit. we'll hear very strong opinions on both sides of this issue today. bill: we'll hear how much they talk about background checks which has gotten a lot of attention the last couple weeks. also mental health in america. and clearly that is something that mark kelly and gabby giffords have been exposed to directly. you mentioned wayne lapierre, he waited a week or some 10 days before there was any public statement that came from him or the nra. hold tight. we'll bring that to you when there are headlines from the hill. martha: we have a lot of breaking news, folks. stick with us. we want to go to the police in seattle who are getting more than they bargained for when a surface-to-air missile launcher showed up at a gun buyback. the shoulder mounted launcher was built for a stinger missile. already had been fired. you don't see that every day. police first spotted the launcher when they noticed a man at buyback trying to sell it to somebody else. the military is investigating how it fell i
it is a miracle that gabby giffords survived that hit. we'll hear very strong opinions on both sides of this issue today. bill: we'll hear how much they talk about background checks which has gotten a lot of attention the last couple weeks. also mental health in america. and clearly that is something that mark kelly and gabby giffords have been exposed to directly. you mentioned wayne lapierre, he waited a week or some 10 days before there was any public statement that came from him or the nra....
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today, former representative gabby giffords opened the first congressional hearing on gun violence since the horrible shootings at sandyhook elementary. ms. gifford spoke with the experience as a survivor of an asas sane's bullet. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. the time is now. you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> be bold. be courageous. more than a month has passed since twenty-first graders were gunned down at sandyhook. and the violence is continuing daily. this morning, while the hearing was under way, three people were shot and wounded at an office complex in arizona. reports there has been more than 1400 shootings. 1400 shooting deaths since the massacre at sandyhook elementary school. that tally doesn't include the heart wrenching story of the high school honor student and band member from chicago who performed at some of president obama's inug ral festivities just last week. 15 years old. she had her whole life in front of her. but, yesterday, she was sholt in the back while si
today, former representative gabby giffords opened the first congressional hearing on gun violence since the horrible shootings at sandyhook elementary. ms. gifford spoke with the experience as a survivor of an asas sane's bullet. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. the time is now. you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> be bold. be courageous. more than a month has passed since...
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kelly is the husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords who survived an assassination attempt. coming up why kelly is saying this is not about the second amendment. >>> bp has been ordered to pay $4 billion in criminal fines and penalties for the 2010 gulf oil spill. a federal judge in new orleans approved the plea deal yesterday. it's the largest criminal penalty in u.s. history. the company faces billions of dollars more in civil penalties. >>> the state of california is expected to fine chevron today for the richmond refinery explosion last august. that fire sent heavy smoke in the air. making some 15,000 people sick. cal osha oversees -- show on paid $10 million so far. the company hopes to return the refinery up to speed by march. >>> time now 5:04. new this morning in less than two months from right now, toll takers on the golden gate bridge will be replaced. ktvu claudine wong is at the golden gate bridge toll plaza right now where a new automated is is being tested today. good morning, claudine. >> reporter: that is right, dave, good morning. testing is under way right
kelly is the husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords who survived an assassination attempt. coming up why kelly is saying this is not about the second amendment. >>> bp has been ordered to pay $4 billion in criminal fines and penalties for the 2010 gulf oil spill. a federal judge in new orleans approved the plea deal yesterday. it's the largest criminal penalty in u.s. history. the company faces billions of dollars more in civil penalties. >>> the state of california is...
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giffords. before testimony began, giffords made a plea for action. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> kelly followed, arguing for restrictions on magazine clips, enhanced mental health care, and advanced background checks. >> we're both gun owners, and we take that right and the responsibilities that come with it very seriously, but rights demand responsibility, and this right does not extend to terrorists, it does not extend to criminals, and it does not extend to the mentally ill. >> while wayne lapierre struck a posture less combative than previous press conferences, his views remain questionable, calling for an immediate blanket of security at schools, lapierre dismissed universal background checks, saying criminals would never submit to them. chairman leahy pressed lapierre on background checks and whether and how the nra head had changed his mind on closing gun show loopholes. >> should we have mandatory bac
giffords. before testimony began, giffords made a plea for action. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> kelly followed, arguing for restrictions on magazine clips, enhanced mental health care, and advanced background checks. >> we're both gun owners, and we take that right and the responsibilities that come with it very seriously, but rights demand responsibility, and this right does not extend to...
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it's important, keep him and gabby giffords and the kids in newtown, keep them in the spotlight. let them have the platform they want. the only way anything happens on the gun violence prevention front is if the intensity level remains on the side of people looking to change the status quo. you know, you know on the side of the nra and extremists on that side, there is already the intensity. it's always been there. they care about this. it's often their top issue. and for those who want to change and have some common sense solutions about high-capacity magazines and other provisions, you've got to fight that intensity with intensity of your own. >> but i -- you know, i agree with your assessment about the intensity, about the emotion. but still even in the face of it -- and mark you were there, you can speak to this. the nra not giving an inch. wayne lapierre got in a heated exchange with senators durbin and leahy over background checks. and he made clear the nra would not give an inch on that issue. let's watch. >> we got to get in the real world on what works and what doesn't w
it's important, keep him and gabby giffords and the kids in newtown, keep them in the spotlight. let them have the platform they want. the only way anything happens on the gun violence prevention front is if the intensity level remains on the side of people looking to change the status quo. you know, you know on the side of the nra and extremists on that side, there is already the intensity. it's always been there. they care about this. it's often their top issue. and for those who want to...
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. >> reporter: when arizona congresswoman gabby giffords was shot, lapierre said it happened not far from a school, a gun-free zone. once again, he lit into his foes. >> it didn't make any difference. their laws don't work. their lies don't ring true. and if tucson tells us anything at all, it tells us this. government failed. >> reporter: now even with newtown still close at hand, he says it is gun control advocates who are endangering america. >> we believe in our right to defend ourselves. and our families, with semiautomatic firearms technology. >> reporter: still, for all his bluster, lapierre has turned the nra into a political juggernaut, amassing more than four million members and pouring $16 million into political races last year alone. making politicians fear not only his bark but also his bite. erin? >> thanks to tom foreman. >>> still to come, controversy? what controversy? if you haven't heard about this, here goes. the question is are companies playing the race card and why are we falling for it. the ad of the super bowl. >>> later in the show, seafoam, as high as ten f
. >> reporter: when arizona congresswoman gabby giffords was shot, lapierre said it happened not far from a school, a gun-free zone. once again, he lit into his foes. >> it didn't make any difference. their laws don't work. their lies don't ring true. and if tucson tells us anything at all, it tells us this. government failed. >> reporter: now even with newtown still close at hand, he says it is gun control advocates who are endangering america. >> we believe in our...
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mark kelly and gabby giffords, his wife, they are both gun owners. kelly told me he considered joining the nra but he never got around to it. he also told me that when it comes to his testimony here, he's going to be sitting at one side of the witness table, wayne lapierre of the nra at the other. he hopes that they can have a conversation that can really start to do something. two staunch supporters of the second amendment, two very different views on guns. >> they're god-given freedoms. they belong to us. in the united states of america, as our birthright. no government gave them to us and no government can ever take them away. >> i defended the second amendment flying in combat over iraq and kuwait. you know, defending our country. gabby owns a gun, i own a gun, this really isn't only about the second amendment. >> reporter: these will be the star witnesses at congress's first hearing on guns since newtown. mark kelly, husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords who survived a gunshot through the head, six people died in the attack. the couple
mark kelly and gabby giffords, his wife, they are both gun owners. kelly told me he considered joining the nra but he never got around to it. he also told me that when it comes to his testimony here, he's going to be sitting at one side of the witness table, wayne lapierre of the nra at the other. he hopes that they can have a conversation that can really start to do something. two staunch supporters of the second amendment, two very different views on guns. >> they're god-given freedoms....
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you heard mark kelly the husband of gabby gifford today suggesting the background check system was too weak on the shooter. gabby gifford herself appealed the law americas to get something that says look it's hard for me to speak but i will give you a brief portion of what she had to say. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. a oo her husband said, britt, that 33 bullets were fired in 32 minutes, 33 people were hit. it was a hand gun. it was a semiautomatic hand gun but it had high capacity magazine. he would point to that situation as something that should change and would change under diane fine stein's legislation reducing magazine rounds to 10. >> maybe something like that could pass. it is still a tough sell in a lot of parts of the country. what tends to happen. you see an event like newtown tremendous imp to etus to this to restrict guns, firearms, then you see testimony of someone like gabby giffords. remarkable she is even there. she looks great. she has trouble speaking and it touches you. they give polit
you heard mark kelly the husband of gabby gifford today suggesting the background check system was too weak on the shooter. gabby gifford herself appealed the law americas to get something that says look it's hard for me to speak but i will give you a brief portion of what she had to say. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. a oo her husband said, britt, that 33 bullets were fired in 32 minutes, 33 people were hit....
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it's very interesting to watch gabby giffords yesterday. her read just is inherently very emotional as she tries to really say every single word. here's a little bit of what she said to those at this hearing. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> just to hear her struggle to get the words out really i think just speaks volumes, if you will, about all that she's been through and all about this debate. and yet this hearing did not then go forward with everybody piling on and trying to work together. it became very divisive, kind of contentious. do you think gabrielle giffords can help affect policy in this manner? >> very, very desfinitely and profoundly. her statement was one of the shortest but most powerful public statements before any congressional hearing i've ever heard. it was really so direct. yes, she did struggle with those words, but there was no mistaking the passion and the depth of her commitment. and when she said be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you, she also said that chil
it's very interesting to watch gabby giffords yesterday. her read just is inherently very emotional as she tries to really say every single word. here's a little bit of what she said to those at this hearing. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> just to hear her struggle to get the words out really i think just speaks volumes, if you will, about all that she's been through and all about this debate. and yet this hearing did not then go forward...
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you have wayne lapierre head of the nra, gabby gifford's husband strong advocate and some of the strongest senators we've got all talking about one of the most devicive issues we face. emotions cou run high today when the husband of former congresswoman gabriel le giffords joins wayne lapierre. patrick lay hee called the hearing in response to the newton shooting where 20 children and six adults were killed. but lapierre doesn't believe the shooting should lead to new gun control laws. he plans to tell the committee law and gun owners will not september the senator dianne feinstein gets her turn to question lapierre at today's hearing. feinstein has been an outspoken critic of the nra. tuesday she told reporters they have fought virtually every kind of regulatioregulation. the time has come to changed course and make people safe. lapierre says the government shouldn't pass any new laws until the government start ts enforcing the laws already on the books. it's still unclear whether gabrielle giffords will attend. but we understand there will be a surprise guest today. he's not identifying
you have wayne lapierre head of the nra, gabby gifford's husband strong advocate and some of the strongest senators we've got all talking about one of the most devicive issues we face. emotions cou run high today when the husband of former congresswoman gabriel le giffords joins wayne lapierre. patrick lay hee called the hearing in response to the newton shooting where 20 children and six adults were killed. but lapierre doesn't believe the shooting should lead to new gun control laws. he plans...
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the hearing began with a very very dramatic moment when former congress woman gabby giffords came inest forted by the chairman, chuck grassley, and her husband, mark kelly. she was asked to give the very first words at the hearing before anybody else spoke. she did so only 72 words, very moving powerful and halting speech, because she still has a long way to go with her recovery. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. >> bill: it was all carefully laid out. she had obviously rehearsed it and it really does sound like a first grader right? reading aloud in the class. >> yeah, she had to relearn how to speak. >> bill: she looked these senator right in the eye and said, you know look we need you. >> you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> bill: seventy-two words every one counted for sure. then the chairman opened with his statement calling on everybody to be open-minded. try to come to some solution the high road, patrick leahy took, and then chuck grassley got up and he lit into a big attack on p
the hearing began with a very very dramatic moment when former congress woman gabby giffords came inest forted by the chairman, chuck grassley, and her husband, mark kelly. she was asked to give the very first words at the hearing before anybody else spoke. she did so only 72 words, very moving powerful and halting speech, because she still has a long way to go with her recovery. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. >>...
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. >> glen reynolds said ask the question about the courage that gabby giffords is asking to be shown. glen said ask that question of democrats in red states that are running in 2014? are they going to have a political courage to do what gabby giffords thinks is the right thing on background checks, on high-capacity magazines, on assault weapons? >> i think it is unlikely that the congress will pass a ban on assault weapons. >> what about these democrats? how hard is it for the moderate democrats? >> speaking specifically of those democrats. i think they will have a hard time voting for a ban on assault weapons. i think willie's point about the background checks and the almost universal support makes it a much easier argument to pass. and two -- >> what about the high-capacity magazines? >> then on these big magazines, i think there's an agreement, a compromise, to be made for those who want to shoot and use those magazines at shooting clubs and while some may hunt with that, keep them there. and if you want to take them out, you have to register in a more serious and comprehensive way
. >> glen reynolds said ask the question about the courage that gabby giffords is asking to be shown. glen said ask that question of democrats in red states that are running in 2014? are they going to have a political courage to do what gabby giffords thinks is the right thing on background checks, on high-capacity magazines, on assault weapons? >> i think it is unlikely that the congress will pass a ban on assault weapons. >> what about these democrats? how hard is it for the...
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. >>> we will turn to gabby giffords and her appeal for gun control on capitol hill. a gunshot survivor herself, her message to law makers was heard loud and clear. >>> just days before the super bowl sunday, the push to protect football players from serious head injuries. can new high-tech helmet designs really make a difference? let's hope so. >> let's hope so. whatever they can do is probably worth a shot. >>> later this half hour, what you did not know about jimmy kimmel's best friend and bandleader, cleto escobado. i took five years of spanish all i can say is hola and cervesa. he came from a very humble background. we get into a little bit of this life backstory there. impressive how he made, done so well. >> you can say cervesa, which is beer. >> yeah, cervesa, the fundamentals. >>> but first, turning to a serious story. the hostage ordeal in rural alabama. dozens gather at a church near the scene where the standoff is taking place last night. >> while they prayed for a peaceful end to the situation, authorities warn it could drag fn for awhile. abc's mark gree
. >>> we will turn to gabby giffords and her appeal for gun control on capitol hill. a gunshot survivor herself, her message to law makers was heard loud and clear. >>> just days before the super bowl sunday, the push to protect football players from serious head injuries. can new high-tech helmet designs really make a difference? let's hope so. >> let's hope so. whatever they can do is probably worth a shot. >>> later this half hour, what you did not know about...
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gabby giffords' husband, mark kelly. >> and that's the difference. other victims are now speaking up, and to see gabby yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters, and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. >> i ws going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american conversation. thank you, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy of new york and ron reagan. >>> we have one more note about the epidemic of gun violence in this country. yesterday we told you about 15-year-old hadiya pendleton of chicago who was fatally shot in what may have been a gang turf war after having performed in washington with her high school band for the inaugural music festival. it all happened since then. we learned in 2008 she was featured in a video speaking out against gun violence. here is part of that video. >> so many children are fearing gangs, and it's your job as students to say no to gan
gabby giffords' husband, mark kelly. >> and that's the difference. other victims are now speaking up, and to see gabby yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters, and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. >> i ws going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american...
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we heard these arguments going all the way back to aurora and going back to gabby giffords. this is the fear and the mongering they put out there. remember, lapierre said when they came out and spoke for the first time, oh, we should be having more police officers on the street. well -- and in schools. i agree with that. i would love to have more police officers in all of our communities. that alone will not solve the problem. it's got to be everything together holistically. more police, better education, certainly mental health, those are the things that we need to do. so those that want to work with us, that's great. but the nra, which they kind of gave us hints that they were willing to work with us but now they have totally flipped and they want nothing to do with us. >> it's nothing from then ra. the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gag
we heard these arguments going all the way back to aurora and going back to gabby giffords. this is the fear and the mongering they put out there. remember, lapierre said when they came out and spoke for the first time, oh, we should be having more police officers on the street. well -- and in schools. i agree with that. i would love to have more police officers in all of our communities. that alone will not solve the problem. it's got to be everything together holistically. more police, better...
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gabby giffords came in when she was not expected to, and of course had emotional testimony. and while her husband was testifying we had another shooting. three people shot in phoenix over a dispute, and the list goes on and on. and we had police chiefs coming in saying let's do something about gun control. guess who was not moved by any of this? of course wayne lapierre. >> we support enforcing the gun laws on the books. there are 25,000 violent crimes a week in this country. the innocent are being prayed upon. victims all over the country want to be able to protect themselves. criminals don't obey the law anyway. they get what they want. and in the middle is the hard-working law-abiding tax-paying american. people want to protect themselves. >> cenk: nonsense, he knows that 40% of the sales are done through gun shows or off the internet, so they are not tracked. you know who that helps? the criminals. wayne lapierre and the nra loves that, because that means that the gun manufacturers that fund the nra make a lot more money, and then we're all scared of the criminals and we
gabby giffords came in when she was not expected to, and of course had emotional testimony. and while her husband was testifying we had another shooting. three people shot in phoenix over a dispute, and the list goes on and on. and we had police chiefs coming in saying let's do something about gun control. guess who was not moved by any of this? of course wayne lapierre. >> we support enforcing the gun laws on the books. there are 25,000 violent crimes a week in this country. the innocent...
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gabby giffords was shot in tucson, arizona. joe heard the shots and ran toward what many people would run from. you had a handgun, right? you didn't take it out, you ran to try to see if there was something you could do, and you could respond. has your personal experience of doing something heroic and running to that situation and seeing the chaos of the sit waegz, has it changed in any way your feeling about people being armed? >> most definitely. i believe that, you know, everyone should have the ability and the access to take training and to prepare themselves for a terrible situation because we aren't safe. it's a false idea that you're safe just because you live in america. so if you want to be responsible and take into consideration that in the worst case scenario, a person who is mentally unstable might open fire on a crowd that you might be a part of, you should train yourself with a weapon and carry it on you so that in the event of that situation, you could do something rather than just be a target, i believe we shoul
gabby giffords was shot in tucson, arizona. joe heard the shots and ran toward what many people would run from. you had a handgun, right? you didn't take it out, you ran to try to see if there was something you could do, and you could respond. has your personal experience of doing something heroic and running to that situation and seeing the chaos of the sit waegz, has it changed in any way your feeling about people being armed? >> most definitely. i believe that, you know, everyone...